Episode 491: Self-Published to Traditionally Published: What Actually Moved the Needle (And What Didn't)
Have you ever wondered what it really takes to go from self-published author to landing a traditional publishing contract? If you've been dreaming of seeing your book on shelves with a traditional publisher's backing, this episode pulls back the curtain on exactly what that journey looks like.
What You'll Discover in This Episode
Sue Donaldson joins the podcast to share the real, unfiltered story of how she went from four self-published books to signing her first traditional publishing deal for her book Never Alone. Whether you're just starting your writing journey or you've been self-publishing for years, Sue's insights will help you understand what publishers are actually looking for.
The Unexpected Advice That Changed Everything
Sometimes the best feedback comes from unexpected places. Sue shares how her daughter's blunt critique—"Mom, is this a Bible study?"—became the turning point that shaped her entire book. Learn why being open to tough feedback (even from family members) can transform your manuscript.
Book Proposal Strategies That Stand Out
With publishers receiving hundreds of proposals, how do you make yours memorable? Sue reveals two specific techniques she used that made her proposal easy to navigate and compelling to read—including a simple table of contents trick that most authors overlook.
Building Platform When Speaking Gigs Are Scarce
If you've relied on speaking engagements to grow your audience and those opportunities have dried up, you're not alone. Sue shares practical alternatives, including how Instagram giveaways became an unexpected source of new followers during a speaking dry spell.
The Hardest Part of Traditional Publishing
Getting the contract is just the beginning. Sue gets honest about what surprised her most about working with a traditional publisher—and why letting go of control might be harder than you think.
Key Takeaways for Your Publishing Journey
Start gathering endorsements early—Sue had 21 people willing to endorse her book before she even had a publisher
Make your book proposal scannable with a clear table of contents
Match your pain points with how you address them in parallel bullet points
Consider your book as a ministry tool, not just a product to sell
Be willing to self-publish if traditional doesn't work out—believe in your message either way

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About Our Guests

Sue Donaldson
Speaker, Author, Podcaster, Bible Teacher
Welcome Heart / WelcomeHeart.com
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Resources Mentioned
- Never Alone: Stories of Invitation & Connection
Sue Donaldson's book about invitation and belonging; explores how conversations can impact relationships and community.
- Red House Writers Collective
Membership with structure, guidance, and accountability for writers.
- Writing at the Red House Website
Official site offering training for speakers and authors, including retreats, coaching, and a podcast.
- Welcome Heart Podcast
Podcast about living a legacy life and hospitality.
- Welcome Heart Facebook Group
Free Facebook group for Welcome Heart; hospitality tips and community sharing.
- Susy Flory
Author and memoir resource; facilitator of the West Coast Christian Writers Conference and memoir guidance.
- Becky Keife
Community and Editorial Manager for DaySpring's (in)courage; author of No Better Mom for the Job.
- Tonya Kubo
Long time friend of the podcast and host of the Find Your Freaks podcast
- Come To My Table: God's Hospitality and Yours
Sue Donaldson's hospitality book with recipes and tips.
- Hospitality 101: Lessons from the Ultimate Host
12-week Bible study on hospitality for individuals or groups.
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